Tag: shut up sami

gay-trek:

phantombishop:

gay-trek:

roddenberry straight up said that if the morals of the 23rd century allowed for it then spock and kirk’s relationship would have been romantic.

time for some gay math:

if sulu = gay

then spirk = real

Can I just…

“if the morals of the 23rd century allowed for it”

As if he’s assuming homosexuality will still be one of the most controversial issues in the year 2233 when there are aliens and shit all over the place? Like absolutely no progress will have been made..??? Like news flash, 21st century morals allow for it, you’re just a shitty person bye

I agree that Roddenberry was most definitely NOT a saint, but he had no way of knowing what progress would have been made and by what time.
The morals of the 21st century also aren’t the same everywhere, Mozambique only JUST decriminalised homosexuality, gay men are being slaughtered in Chechnya, my Australian girlfriend got chucked out of home only two years ago.
Change doesn’t happen overnight, we don’t know how long it will take.

I think if we look at what he said in the context of when he said it we can come to a different conclusion. It’s not necessarily a question of whether or not we will be a more accepting and loving species in the 23rd century, but instead it is one of whether or not we were in the 20th.

Newsflash! We weren’t, and Roddenberry knew this. What we see even in progressive media is still limited by our regressive society. If star trek was unbound by our own societal limitations I have no doubt in my mind that we would have a blatantly canon spirk in a heartbeat. We also wouldn’t have to wait 50+ years for a canon gay Sulu.

For a show that gave us a powerful interracial cast, complete with women in high command, a proud Russian man during the height of the Cold War, a black woman during one of the most violent chapters of the Civil Rights Movement, and the first on screen interracial kiss in television history, for the producers and the censors at the time to also approve a blatantly gay couple would have the show laughed out of Hollywood at best. The Lavender Scare was at its height during this time, too, and although I hate the message of being happy with what you’ve got and accepting stagnation, for the time we got the best we possibly could. All we can do is demand better now from the reboot.

Rant

I’m sorry I just have to say something. My family and I are re-watching season four of Sherlock, and I’m currently crying. I had to leave the room, because I couldn’t go though that pain again. I love Sherlock, and John, and Molly, and everyone, even Mary, I love as an interesting character, not a person that I want to see near any upstanding member of society. But that’s beside the point, everything about the latest season breaks my heart. I can’t stand Sherlock and John and everyone else go through the horrors of bad writing. There have been multiple times in my life where the only reason I’ve lived through the night is because I read Sherlock Holmes stories instead of killing myself in the morning. Further to the point I’ve said many times that Mark Gatiss is (was?) the greatest writer of our time, but after watching S4 I’m not sure. Is he on meth? Did he suffer some sort of brain injury that I don’t know about? If he needs help I’d like to know. I do ship Johnlock, but the fact that they didn’t end up together isn’t my problem with the series thus far. I just watched the scene where John beats Sherlock, and that was what did it for me. Not only did it bring back bad memories of my mother beating my dad, which I recognize is slightly my fault for not remembering that scene was coming and removing myself from the situation, but it also made the terrible writing terribly real for me. I love Sherlock Holmes with all my heart, and I can’t bear to see him hurt by someone who for over 100 years has stood by his side as a close and treasured friend. Nearly every decision made in the creation of S4 was a bad one, and that feels almost wrong to say after I waited so long and with so much hope for it. Maybe this is my own fault. I don’t know. I’m sorry to put all this on your dash, but I just had to get this off my chest. It’s not all of my feelings, but it’s all I can articulate right now. Thanks for listening, and as usual, if you’re sick of seeing my writing just block the tag “shut up sami.”